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Updated Feb 9, 2010 - 10:36 am

Can state employees "double dip?"

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Considering the severe economic crisis facing Washington, can the state afford to pay workers both a retirement pension and a salary at the same time?

That was the focus of Dave Ross' interview with State Auditor Brian Sonntag who said the process does exist, and in some cases can actually benefit the state financially. The process called "double dipping" by some, but which Sonntag calls the "retire-rehire" program, involves state workers who have reached their retirement age, retire with their pension, and then get rehired by the state.

But there are rules for how it's done.

"A person who retires and then is hired back in to do any kind of work for a government agency is restricted to about 5 months of full employment without having to get back into the system," Sonntag said on Monday.

There are various retirement packages for teachers, law enforcement, and regular state employees but the average rule is five months of work before their pension is put on hold and they go back to work full time.

According to Sonntag the system prevents a "brain drain" of institutional knowledge as groups of people, like baby boomers, retire all at once. "If those rules are followed... and the hours are followed the government certainly isn't, and the tax payers aren't losing any money. In fact, there could very well be a financial benefit."

Sonntag believes that workers who retire and are rehired into some other agency can provide tremendous experience and knowledge over their five-month contract and save taxpayers from rehiring a full time employee with less knowledge who needs a longer period of training.

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  • roguehawkfan1119 wrote...
    Of course....
    idiots in state government.
  • roguehawkfan1119 wrote...
    Oh and another thing....
    dont these people know that double dipping is just wrong? Havent they watched the Seinfeld episode about people double dipping? It's just wrong...wrong I say. It's redonkulous!
  • SoundDesigner wrote...
    But if my business
    rents the same thing to two different people in the same day, and makes two daily rental fees and charges 4 hour minimums on labor for the workers too both customers that overlap in time, that is "just doing business..." It is legal and the same thing. If the workers and the state benefits then this is just good for all of us. The workers have earned those pension benefits thanks to years of hard work. Congrats to the person who thought this up.
  • Giddens wrote...
    Teachers Do This All the Time...
    Retired teachers remain as substitute teachers while drawing retirement. This isn't to the extent as the article suggests, but this teacher example actually limits the work opportunities of new or laidoff teachers such as myself.
  • taxslave wrote...
    Giddens
    Exactly. We are at a 15-20% unemployment rate. We need to consider offering up early retirement packages to the baby boomer generation, thus creating jobs for the younger crowd. We are going to pay either way. Either the social programs for the jobless young, or the retirment programs for the employed elders.
  • coreybob123 wrote...
    this isnt news
    this has been happening for a long time, i remember in 1999 a friend of fathers doing this as a teacher
  • shadyachmed wrote...
    A
    "brain drain" of institutional knowledge - is exactly what this corrupt inept state bureaucracy needs!!! Sonntag is an institutional hack. Someone ought to separate him from is brain.







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